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I can only get them through Ampman for family members :) Kirk is good to me. Back in the day, I got a Tempest for free for helping promote Adire to the car audio crowd... Kirk still wants me to go back and work for him but unfortunately the money is just not there (particularly since I have an engineering degree and a decent job... I worked when I was in college just for fun basically). Anyways, good to hear you like Adire products. I've always felt they are the best price/performance out there, while still beating some of the most expensive equipment straight up. -Alt

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